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he defended rebekah brooks. he defended les hinton, the former dow jones ceo who also resigned last friday, and he said he had been betrayed by unname other employees. it was not overall an impressive performance. >> we mo this has to be costing news corp. millions. how much of a liability is it to keep rupert murdoch where he is right now? >> i don't know if the liability is to rupert murdoch but it is his leadership. i think he has to stay and use others as a human shield for as long as he can. he's been a liability in many ways if you look at the value of property for so many years. but when is news corporation going to get out and do the top to bottom investigation not just of their british publications and they're only doing that right now but, in fact, going worldwide? and until they do that they will always be behind the story and as long as he's at the helm and performing the way he did today, he will increasingly be a liability. >> what are your thoughts about strategy here? rupert murdoch is 81 years o
he defended rebekah brooks. he defended les hinton, the former dow jones ceo who also resigned last friday, and he said he had been betrayed by unname other employees. it was not overall an impressive performance. >> we mo this has to be costing news corp. millions. how much of a liability is it to keep rupert murdoch where he is right now? >> i don't know if the liability is to rupert murdoch but it is his leadership. i think he has to stay and use others as a human shield for as...
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that will be with rebekah brooks. we expect rupert murdoch there, quite clear, saying phone hacking is wrong, paying police officers is wrong, has no part in news international, no part in news corp, and saying there will be no excuses. our colleague looks at these things from a rounded point of view, did the murdochs do what they needed to do to put a bit of shine back on the company, or not? >> i think, richard, if you look at all the comments they made over the course of the past three hours, what comes out loud and clear to me are two executives who appear profoundly out of touch. some of the statements that we heard earlier, i made lots of notes as you can imagine, all news organizations use private investigators, as if that legitimizes the practice. i trusted people. excuse me, the chief executive of a company is responsible. so mr. murdochs, both, need to own what has happened in their organization. the culture is clearly broken. there are so many other comments like that. >> right. let's go round, we will stay
that will be with rebekah brooks. we expect rupert murdoch there, quite clear, saying phone hacking is wrong, paying police officers is wrong, has no part in news international, no part in news corp, and saying there will be no excuses. our colleague looks at these things from a rounded point of view, did the murdochs do what they needed to do to put a bit of shine back on the company, or not? >> i think, richard, if you look at all the comments they made over the course of the past three...
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brooks or mr. hinton, or any of those executives had knowledge of that and their assertions, certainly mrs. brooks and assertions to me of her knowledge of those things has been -- has been clear. nonetheless, those resignations have been accepted. but it's important to know on the basis that there is no evidence today that i have seen or that i have any knowledge of, that there was any impriority by them. >> turn to tom watson. >> mr. murdoch sr., good afternoon, sir. you have repeatedly stated that news corp has a zero tolerance of wrongdoing by employees. is that right? >> yes. >> in october 2010, did you still believe it to be true when you made your speech and you said, let me be clear, we will be vig -- we will vigorously pursue the truth and we will not tolerate wrongdoing? >> yes. >> so if you were not lying then, somebody lied to you, who was it? >> i don't know. that is what the police are investigating and we are helping them with. >> but you acknowledge that you were misled? >> clearly.
brooks or mr. hinton, or any of those executives had knowledge of that and their assertions, certainly mrs. brooks and assertions to me of her knowledge of those things has been -- has been clear. nonetheless, those resignations have been accepted. but it's important to know on the basis that there is no evidence today that i have seen or that i have any knowledge of, that there was any impriority by them. >> turn to tom watson. >> mr. murdoch sr., good afternoon, sir. you have...
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rebecca brooks was the editor of news of the world from 2000 to 2003. after brooks was promoted, andy colson became ceo of news of the world. he became communications director for british prime minister david cameron. colson was arrested last week, rebecca brooks was arrested yesterday. the scandal is spreading beyond murdock's media empire. paul stevenson resigned yesterd yesterday. his assistant commissioner john yates resigned today. the initial investigation into the scandal was botched. >>> rupert murdock, james murdock and rebecca brooks were all scheduled to testify before parliament tomorrow morning. cnn will cover their testimony live. >>> and it's time now for a cnn political update and someone else is set to take the republican pledge in the deficit debate. cnn deputy political director paul steinhauser joining us from washington. who's signing on now? >> michele bachmann for minnesota, she becames the latest of these republican candidates to do this, just about all of them have signed this pledge. she's going to sign them in south carolina,
rebecca brooks was the editor of news of the world from 2000 to 2003. after brooks was promoted, andy colson became ceo of news of the world. he became communications director for british prime minister david cameron. colson was arrested last week, rebecca brooks was arrested yesterday. the scandal is spreading beyond murdock's media empire. paul stevenson resigned yesterd yesterday. his assistant commissioner john yates resigned today. the initial investigation into the scandal was botched....
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rebekah brooks told lawmakers yesterday that she visited cameron's predecessors a lot more often than she saw cameron. listen to this. >> the fact is i have never been to downing street while cameron has been prime minister, and yet under prime minister brown and tony blair, i did regularly go. strangely it was under labor issues, and it was not the current administration. >> six investigations are now under way into phone hacks and bribes to the police. >>> some of the other big stories we're keeping an eye on. we are learning president obama plans to meet with house and senate democratic leadership this afternoon at the white house. 2:50 p.m., to be exact. this all because we're less than two weeks away from the federal government defaulting on its obligations, and congress has yet to work out a deal. president obama's debt-cutting plan can't pass the house and the plan from house republicans can't pass the senate. house speaker john boehner reiterated tuesday that default is not in the cards. and also on tuesday, the so-called gang of six unveiled their plans. it was called, quote,
rebekah brooks told lawmakers yesterday that she visited cameron's predecessors a lot more often than she saw cameron. listen to this. >> the fact is i have never been to downing street while cameron has been prime minister, and yet under prime minister brown and tony blair, i did regularly go. strangely it was under labor issues, and it was not the current administration. >> six investigations are now under way into phone hacks and bribes to the police. >>> some of the...
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we know he had various conversations with rebekah brooks, the chief executive but we're told that they were appropriate but don't know what the content is yet. i don't want to get too bogged down in the detail. the short answer is not at the moment. i don't think anyone's talking about him being in a perilous position yet. this is slowly incrementally getting closer and closer to downing street's door. it is very, very awkward for the prime minister. it's taken up a lot of his time and put him in a difficult position. i think he's desperately hoping after today's combative exchanges in the house of commons behind me, this will be a line drawn under it. it will then go back to the police inquiry. this lot the politicians will be off on their summer holidays and i would think david cameron will be hoping this will be off his initial sort of entree for the summer and he can concentrate on other things. >> let's revisit rupert murdoch's testimony. refusing to take any responsibility for this phone hacking scandal. take a quick peek. >> do you accept that ultimately, you are responsible for
we know he had various conversations with rebekah brooks, the chief executive but we're told that they were appropriate but don't know what the content is yet. i don't want to get too bogged down in the detail. the short answer is not at the moment. i don't think anyone's talking about him being in a perilous position yet. this is slowly incrementally getting closer and closer to downing street's door. it is very, very awkward for the prime minister. it's taken up a lot of his time and put him...
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you have rebecca brooks saying it's inconceivable she knew of any of this hacking. how can you hack 4,000 people, end up with hundreds of stories, many of them full of really, you know, delicious personal stuff that you would only learn from phone calls, and not as an editor ask where it had come from. go ahead. >> david, i was just wondering, the question we have on our minds, is this really a watergate moment for british journalism? the smear campaign against gordon brown, do you think it was politically motivated, that the paper actually had something, some skin in the game here to trash a politician, that one in particular, the prime minister? >> reporter: well, if you remember watergate, the dynamics were different. it was government trying to rub out its enemies. in this instance, you have media powers looking either for circulation or for operational leverage, going after politicians and telling them how it's going to be. it's a little scary, i guess, for the average american to think about things that way but again, you have to remember, britain is a much sm
you have rebecca brooks saying it's inconceivable she knew of any of this hacking. how can you hack 4,000 people, end up with hundreds of stories, many of them full of really, you know, delicious personal stuff that you would only learn from phone calls, and not as an editor ask where it had come from. go ahead. >> david, i was just wondering, the question we have on our minds, is this really a watergate moment for british journalism? the smear campaign against gordon brown, do you think...
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and rebekah brooks is set to be grilled in this building behind me. but rupert murdoch and james murdoch are being asked to turn up. so farther either saying that they w't or can't and they have been served with the summons by the deputy sergeant of arms, which means that they are being sort of demanded that they come. it's pretty serious stuff. the problem is, because they are american citizens, no one is quite sure if they can have jurisdiction over them, forcing them to turn up or not. so there is scratching of heads there. it's completely unchartered territory and they are talking about introducing emergency laws to force them to come along. >> we're following it closely. dan rivers, thanks. >>> well, they are almost there. the u.s. women's soccer team, one win away from hoisting that world cup. they are going to face japan on sunday in the championship match after their 3-1 win yesterday against france. zain is not only watching all of the action, she's going to be there for the game and report live and give us every single detail, right? >> repo
and rebekah brooks is set to be grilled in this building behind me. but rupert murdoch and james murdoch are being asked to turn up. so farther either saying that they w't or can't and they have been served with the summons by the deputy sergeant of arms, which means that they are being sort of demanded that they come. it's pretty serious stuff. the problem is, because they are american citizens, no one is quite sure if they can have jurisdiction over them, forcing them to turn up or not. so...
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. >> elizabeth murdoch has denied reports she blamed her brother james aura beck cag brooks for the damage the scandal has done to her father's company. she once started her own independent tv firm only to be bought by her father for nearly $650 million. >> this is a man who cares so much about his legacy, he once said to me, all i want is for my kids to be decent people. >> they love their father, but keep an eye on replacing him when that day comes. >> james very much very much wanted it. they all wanted it. there was the period when elizabeth wanted -- elizabeth was the heir and that didn't work out. and then lackland and james. so actually this rather continues the pattern. >> keeping it all in the family. rupert murdoch told questioners about his late father buying a small newspaper, rooting out scandals. >> which i remain very, very proud of. >> i think students of history are well aware of your family business. >> i would love to see my sons and daughters follow if they're interested. >> a hint from the father that the children may be less interested now that the company is embroile
. >> elizabeth murdoch has denied reports she blamed her brother james aura beck cag brooks for the damage the scandal has done to her father's company. she once started her own independent tv firm only to be bought by her father for nearly $650 million. >> this is a man who cares so much about his legacy, he once said to me, all i want is for my kids to be decent people. >> they love their father, but keep an eye on replacing him when that day comes. >> james very much...